But in terms of where they rank on the all-time list, I put Frazier slightly ahead. The Don’t mess with old man they don’t just look crazy shirt had a handful of common opponents, but of course, they were much older when they faced Frazier than when they fought Liston. The most obvious one is Ali. “The Greatest” was also past his prime when Frazier beat him, but the most revealing thing is how Frazier, even in his subsequent two losses to Ali, fought on no matter what. In the third fight, the “Thrilla in Manila,” Frazier couldn’t even see at the end. He’d gone into the fight with one bad eye, and then Ali closed the other one. And yet he fought on, and it was his trainer, Eddie Futch, who stopped the fight, even though Frazier begged him not to. Compare that to Liston quitting on his stool in the first Ali fight. Now, I definitely don’t think he threw the fight. I just think Liston, for all of his incredible power, was like most bullies.
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Someone stood up to him, he was being beaten and embarrassed, and he quit. Sure, he had a legitimate shoulder injury, but there are plenty Don’t mess with old man they don’t just look crazy shirt of fighter’s who’ve had really bad shoulders and fought on, using one hand, refusing to quit. We saw that with Manny Pacquaio in the fight with Floyd Mayweather: he had suffered a shoulder injury before the fight, and reinjured it in the 4th round, but kept fighting. It was the biggest fight of his career, and he was looking bad, but he kept going, kept trying.